0:00 i'm going to read a little bio okay about you so people know who you are i mean because i know who you are but nobody else does and then we'll i'm still figuring it out yeah that's well so that's good because you know i think the one sign of somebody who who's not growing is they they think they've got it figured out yeah right i agree 100 well let me begin with what i think is self-evident i think anyone who's who's been around the block will agree that pretty much everyone walking the planet throughout history has wanted one thing
0:37 who are you and where are you going what do you want together we'll find the ideal path on the way to wow show with your host kevin bemel every once in a while we have a guest that won't easily fit into any of the nine realms let alone any individual pillar in the three pillars of attainment for that person they're not only living a holistic life
1:12 but they can help us figure out how to do the same and that's my guest for this episode of the way to wow show rabbi [ __ ] seidenfeld is going to talk to us about how we integrate the physical mental and spiritual into one overall whole that will lead us on our way to wow but first we're going to talk to hindo and he's going to mix up a cocktail hey kevin how are you mate i'm good how are you doing i'm doing all right good so
1:47 what do you got this time today we're going to be making uh one of the ones that are is an original to me um uh oh original in general which um is going to be called a muir sour a muir cell yeah which is my grandmother's last name and my grandmother was a horrible human being um because she was uh she was scottish and moody and grumpy and all that stuff because she was raised in a different time where happiness hadn't been invented yet so what this is is this is actually based on um like i get why she was upset all of her friends died out in the cretaceous period so i would be too um but what we're going to do is we're
2:22 going to make a sour in the traditional sense okay and then we're going to use a kind of original syrup which is a combination of wine sugar and then i have clove and i have cinnamon in here she's going to have kind of like a holidays kind of like you know festive kind of uh smell to it like a taste and you know that kind of i don't know yule tidy kind of thing okay so we're going to do that because um she used to give us as kids uh this i don't know if you know anything about scots they have this little uh thing that goes around where they
2:57 they kind of drunk the uh kind of like uh drug the kids a little bit they go here have this as a tiny bit of nip inside some sort of like a marmalade base or a jam based kind of um alcohol and that subdues the kids well i realized years later that i used to get this stuff when i became an adult and i was like i swear grant used to give this to me in order to make me shut up and come down style so i made a drink based around that it's a lot of fun sounds good it's got scotch it's got scotch so it's a little bit of everything of uh her in it so we're gonna basically we call it the ufc not just because it's a sour but because
3:32 she was so very much that so here we go just because you know every drink should have a story absolutely so we're going to do everything freshly squeezed nice nice good fresh lemon exactly so now do you drink a lot of sours at all or what do you um you know you've got a favorite sour i don't recall i mean i like whiskey sours i've had them on occasion yeah um i once made one for my wife and me and um you know i i think i'm fortunate she didn't divorce me over it it was so horrible um that's good but you know i i i had a
4:09 whiskey sour in manhattan i think it was for the first time and loved it really yeah at a piano bar in manhattan now that i think about it and it was wonderful wonderful i love that so did you have a new york tower there or did you have a boston sour just a traditional kind of thing you know it's too long ago to remember exactly what kind it was all i mean it brings back fond memories yeah that's wonderful so what we're going to do is we're going to shake this with just a teeny sea bit of ice i usually do a dry shake but i actually find that doing a wet shake and then a dry shake gets you the best kind of head on the drink wait so what's what's i've never
4:44 heard of this a wet shaker so you've got yourself a wet shake which is the traditional kind of way of doing it with ice in it oh and then you've got yourself a dry shake which is going to be um with basically nothing in it at all so and the citrus and the alcohol inside of this is going to actually cook the egg white oh yeah okay and you can do it a bunch of different ways but that's the way that i like to do it so you can do it uh the normal way which is do it dry than wet but i found that wet then dry really brings out like the best kind of like froth on it oh okay i see so oh so you're going to this then strain this back and strain this back into here and get rid of all the excess
5:20 eyes just like that and you're looking for that kind of color yeah so we're going with that jam marmalade kind of like look there we go love that [Music] wonderful i need to go to new york and have some of their sours so a new york tower by the way is going to be um it's going to be a little bit of red wine drizzled over the top boston sour is going to have some salt sprinkle into it i think that's a joke on boston as being salty about something i'm not sure what that's all about yeah i never thought of the bostonians as being salty but you can tell me i don't know i just saw it there i was like that's that
5:55 seems like it could be a joke it might not be might be just the way that it is yeah you never know we don't have a strainer here at the moment but it should work out just fine let's do that oh it's a bit messy [Music] cheers hey an angel just got its wings there you go i wondered how that happened and we're looking for that nice creamy head onto oh yeah you definitely got it there you go awesome beautiful let's do it like that wonderful then i just like to put an orange peel
6:32 even though it's got lemon in it she just like to put that resting in there like that she used to get oranges for christmas because as she said that was the uh the only thing you could get in scotland that was of any value that her family could afford oranges fresh fruit apparently back then was uh was hard to come by in scotland quite yeah quite quickly back in the what in the 1300s so so they've decided to go with that so they uh don't get scared those are crustaceans yeah yeah that was a cretaceous the crustaceans with all the crabs so but there was the cretaceous as well so all those ashes
7:07 so many of those yeah me too one asians is much like another asians they're all ashes so there you go asia's to asia's drinks to drinks wow we've used that a lot haven't we we're having a bit of fun with that yeah have a drink my friend philosophy according to hendo yeah exactly just wordplay silliness thank you sir [Music] i'm walking slowly and i'm still spilling them this is a mure sour hendo made for us
7:42 it's named after his scottish grandmother who i guess was not the happiness happiest of human beings that ever occupied this planet shall we uh toast to uh i don't know to meaning to meaning there you go now now i know why he left so quickly no i'm only joking first guest ever to slam the drink no it's wonderful actually it's good huh
8:20 really good we have to yeah hmm yum so you know a fortuitous meeting on the street yep here we go here we are right i'm going to read a little bio okay about you so people know who you are i mean because i know who you are but nobody else does and then we'll i'm still figuring it out yeah that's well so that's good because you know i think the one sign of someone who who's not growing is they they think they've got it figured out yeah right i agree 100
8:55 self-described as a freelance rabbi [ __ ] zeidenfeld has an eclectic professional background to say the least he is a sex he is a successful real estate agent who uses his counseling and conflict resolution skills to assist his clients in their transactions that covers the physical pillar he teaches classes to executives in the music and film industry and serves as the scholar in residence for asia torah's jewish men's initiative program so you've got the mental pillar covered [ __ ] has been active in jewish outreach for over 30 years including
9:30 founding a major program at ucla okay that's that little gem trade that little trade school over in westwood the real university is you know usc i understood okay i know where you went yeah he's been a filmmaker completing a project in hungary chronicling his father's life uh prior to the concentration camp out of which came his powerful lecture on faith titled how god survived auschwitz may i jump in for a moment sure i didn't actually make that film i traveled with the film crew oh okay so
10:05 i'm not a filmmaker oh okay maybe a wannabe i want to be filmmaker okay well so maybe this will launch your you know maybe career okay nonetheless your your lecture on faith covers the third pillar which is the spiritual pillar rounding out your life you you have your wife holly with whom you live in los angeles you have three daughters and a son-in-law yes lolly yeah lolly didn't i say lolly you said holly i believe oh i have to correct that yeah please because she'll do she'll see this absolutely right she'll think about my wife to another woman
10:40 a lot of territory there we won't cover lolly he's married to lolly um yeah so you know i was saying in the introduction i can't put you into any realm let alone any of the three pillars you're you're really the way i like it dealing with life in its totality so maybe you can tell us a wise one what is the recipe to living a fulfilled and meaningful life or or in the language of the show
11:15 how do we find our way to wow wow thank you for that um well let me begin with what i think is self-evident i think anyone who's who's been around the block will agree that pretty much everyone walking the planet throughout history has wanted one thing and that is to have meaning in their life for their life to be meaningful to have more but not just more deeper and it's interesting i came across and unfortunately i didn't keep the the article but i came across an article a
11:50 while ago and it was um the author of the article was a psychologist i don't i don't believe he was a spiritual person but i i just don't remember clearly and he said something fascinating he made an observation he observed that there is a phenomenon that you see by humans that you don't see in the animal kingdom there are many but he was focusing on one and the phenomenon that he was focusing on was excess excess to have more than you need
12:25 in the animal kingdom you never have that it's all about survival every move they make revolves around survival not true for human beings it doesn't only revolve around survival survival isn't enough just to survive just to live isn't enough you want more you want more than you have always constantly pressing and striving for more or being driven for more so he said why is that true what does that say about us so his conclusion was the following he said
13:02 it's because we're not only bodies but we're souls this is a psychologist speaking right we said you know you have an experience it's an exhilarating experience you're on to the next one you've done it been there done that i need the next thing and you keep on going from one to the other because there is this this insatiable desire you have for more or for different or for deeper and it's because there's a part of you that's not being fed it's not being nourished there's the soul that is wants something else that you
13:37 are not feeding it you know it's interesting i mean i'm i'm thinking about who your audience is there's this is an idea that came to me a while ago and i use it a lot now i'm a bit of a wordsmith i i really pay attention to words language both in hebrew um and in english as well and the word fulfill for um you know meaning fulfillment fulfilled let's say uh so that's a fascinating word because let's break it down full
14:12 filled they're both two versions of the same word full and filled why is that and yet that's the word that refers to this this quality of being fil of being fulfilled in a deep deep meaningful profound way why full-filled so i think the the idea and it just resonates with me because again i'm both in the business world and i'm both in the spiritual world and the counseling room is you can have a full life and not be filled up
14:48 you can have a full life you can be exhilarated by what you're doing professionally and it's not enough you're not it doesn't fill you full life not fulfilled not filled so how do we how do we how do we find those experiences well that's it i was hoping you were gonna ask that question um let me ask you something okay audience participation okay or host participation you got it okay have you ever had a profound experience in your life yes okay would you mind briefly sharing it and it could be it could be more than
15:24 one i i mean the one that leaps to mind was uh when my daughter was born oh beautiful that's one of the one of the key answers for a lot of people i'll tell you where the answers fall because i've asked this question a lot within the context of this of this conversation so a lot of people mention life events birth some people mention death when someone dies when someone passes that's a profound life event for sure so both both cradle to coffin the whole the whole gamut of experience those are profound events some people
16:00 mentioned uh um a difficult time in their life that they somehow rose above and transcended it could be a bankruptcy will fill in the blank just a difficult time that you transcend a lot of people mention nature being being in nature and nature doesn't have to be the most you know the most um expansive it doesn't have to be this macro it could just be in in some sweet natural scene that just somehow triggers something inside you you don't even know how to how to explain it you don't even
16:35 know what it's triggering but it's profound you would use the word profound so people use these two answers events and environments events and environments but here's the problem and i'm using this as a as a prelude to to answering your question sure the problem with an event or an experience is once you or the or an environment is once you leave the environment it's gone you're not there once the experience event is over it's gone it can affect you it can launch you into
17:12 an orbit but how do you stay in that orbit that's the thing you want to stay in that orbit i have a family member who climbed mount kilimanjaro after a family um tragedy something was propelling him he had to concretely do something he's a bit of a runner much better ship than i am especially after this um and he he climbed up mount kilimanjaro i don't even think he did any attitude uh altitude uh training um although he's a runner and i think he was the first one up there but the thing is this and i'm sure he
17:48 was driven up there and when he was up there there was a huge it was cathartic and powerful and profound but here's the thing you have to come down you can't stay on mount kilimanjaro right daughter's born that's awesome amazing powerful moment but and and she's still in your life and and your and your life is filled with these moments how do we maintain that so i want to say there are there are three i think it's a it's a tripod it's really a tripod okay and the tripod is through giving striving and meditation slash prayer
18:24 that's how we keep it alive do we repeat those things again we're giving being a giver we can discuss that we can elaborate on that striving never being satisfied always driving for deeper and deeper okay okay striving to get closer to the divine image that you were that you were born with uh and um in meditation or prayer okay or reflection uh giving i'll share a story with you dude have you have you ever heard of baron
18:59 duroth child yes okay okay i'm not not the story you're necessarily going to tell but i certainly have heard of him oh okay so baron de rajan came he came from and i'm not sure which one of the rothschilds but he came from a very famous banking family i think based in switzerland and uh the one that i'm speaking about who lived in the i think he was born in the 1800s late 1800s and lived into the 1900s he refused he was a billionaire before there was billionaires a secular jew
19:35 and he uh he refused to give interviews it was his policy never to give an interview for one reason there was one question that he anticipated would be asked that he would refuse to answer what do you think the question was how you became so wealthy okay that he didn't necessarily he didn't that didn't bother him the question that he was anticipating was what's your net worth how much are you worth how much are you worth the forbes
20:10 question right what's your net worth for some reason this is an article i read a while ago he made an exception and he granted a journalist an interview and the journalist is there in one of his homes sits down has a wonderful interview and all the way at the end last question he said i just want you know my article is going to be read by you by many people around the world and i'm sure everyone's going to be interested in do you mind if i ask you what your
20:46 net worth is baron de rothschild gets up and storms out of the room it took him 30 minutes it was a huge room um that was a joke thank you he stormed out of the room so he knew he offended him what he didn't know was whether he was coming back into the room or not so he waited there he was going to wait a little bit before he left sure enough baron de rothschild walks back in walks over to the desk and slams a book on the desk and tells him to open it he tells him to open it he opens up the
21:23 book and it's a ledger of all the money that he has donated in his life a running ledger and he points to the book and he said that's what i'm worth that's my net value that's a powerful lesson lesson coming from a powerful person a lot of times powerful people are not that driven or do not value they give but maybe there's an ulterior motive he defined himself by what he
21:58 gave that brought meaning into his life and his and and his wealth so that's that's an amazing story yeah it's a powerful story for me also i use it whenever i can absolutely we could speak for 10 shows i think yeah um but unfortunately our time is our time is up if it flies [ __ ] just amazing thoughts amazing wisdom i i i really appreciate it on a personal level you
22:34 coming and talking tell us again the three giving being a giver and again maybe at another time we'll elaborate on the others striving being a striver but strive for for living an elevated life not just striving moving from one thing to the next and keep on being driven just to achieve for achievement's sake or for wealth uh and a prayer slash meditation class uh slash reflection okay and you incorporate those three into your life um and i think that it will have an impact
23:09 on your quality of life you'll find your way to wow you'll find your way to wow yeah thank you so much my pleasure thank you for having me it's easy to get focused on one or maybe two realms if our health is declining we can get focused there or we're really motivated by our job sometimes we need to take a step back and realize that all nine realms and all three pillars are important and they need to work together
23:45 if we're going to find our way to wow thinking back about what [ __ ] told us his wonderful stories the clarity of what he said we need to think about giving striving and meditating if we want to live that holistic life where we can keep growing day after day month after month year after year giving striving and meditating
24:22 to do that have courage at all times my friends marie you're still my bell darling [Music]
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